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Sunday, 05 August 2007

Visiting a b-school is a lot like dating

810755727_9d0aa748caLike the ever-handsome-and-clever Patxi (yes, ladies, it is true, there are some very handsome men at LBS*! But before you all rush out, this one's taken), I got an email from Manoj asking for advice when visiting b-schools. I think Patxi has put down very useful comments and for a while there I didn't think there was anything I could add. However, I wouldn't be I (me?) if at one point I do feel there's something I need to say about this too. So here it goes.

Visiting a b-school is a lot like taking a girl on a first date (not that I have any personal experience in taking a girl out on a date, I must admit, I prefer to date guys, but I'm extrapolating from my experience of watching American movies). If you asked her out, that means that you already think she's going to be nice/interesting/sexy/entertaining (delete or add as appropriate) so the groundwork is laid. You dress up nicely, but not too formal, just enough so she can tell you made an effort. You come on time, make an effort to be courteous and interesting and most of all interested in her, and try and leave a good impression in general and not behave like an idiot/raving lunatic/serial killer (again delete or add as appropriate, you get my drift). You try and figure out if you want to go on another date. Now that's exactly the process of visiting a b-school too. Follow the above (and most of all, read Patxi's advice, which is much more practical) and you're sorted.

I'm getting ready for what promises to be an interesting week. Tomorrow one of my old housemates is back in town (yeehaaw!), Tuesday and Wednesday I'm off to Istanbul/Ankara for what promises to be a whirlwind business trip, and Thursday it's back to normal schedule again. I spent the past two days trying to assemble a wardrobe for a business trip: after ditching my suits 4 years ago, and only having a few dresses/skirts I really needed a wardrobe update (although no suits are necessary, it's not that kind of business, I still needed more than trainers, a tee and jeans). And of course with my first paycheck update, and some of the sales still on, I had a blast :-) I had forgotten exactly how nice it is to shop with a paycheck in the bank.

Above photo taken about a month ago in my 'hood in London, as always with the trusty N95.

* That said, I must say that all the male LBS MBA bloggers are quite handsome... maybe it's a blogging thing ;-)

[edited to add: btw, I've officially graduated. Got the letter last week. Now all that's left is the nice shiny piece of paper that someone's calligraphed my name on. Apparently, that will take a little while, till sometime in autumn.]

Comments

Thank you, Divina Natasja, for your compliment, it means a lot to me, but even more coming from someone as Divine as you are ;)

Now my comment: Interesting how many things are like going out with a potential partner: Looking for a job (what is the milkround, but a huge speed dating facility?), for a B-school, for a business partner, finding the perfect flat... (though this last one is definitely more rushed)

At the end, finding a partner is, fundamentally, a problem of dealing with the unknown, with a need to commit at some level, thus in need of gathering and conveying information.

So the signals broadcasted and received are critical, the acreditations and behaviours, etc...

Just the same as finding the right B-school, the same kind of problem.

Fascinating, ins't it?

2nd comment: BTW, the situation is almost perfectly simmetrical if you are the girl on the first date.

The goal is the same: Figure out whether you want to go on a 2nd date, gather information, forward signals, etc...

Only difference is that the conventional signals to broadcast are different depending on your gender, but again, the process is pretty similar.

Isn't it? Or maybe in the Netherlands is different, and it's only about wearing the right clogs :p

hey guys, I haven't been dating in a while but ... in the old days the purpose of dating was a lot more straightforward than what you say. Same applies to Bschool visits, innit? :) greetings Natasja, enjoy turkey :)

Hi Nat',

thanks for your prompt reaction on CPM, i have heard so many good things about it, i cant wait to participate !!!

I can only imaging how bizarre it is to start working again after the great LBS experience, but for some reasons i am convince you will do great, you radiate this kind of positive energy that can only lead to good things ! :-)

On my side, i just got back from South Africa where i did the field trip (great experience with great people) and spent an extra week visting the south (safari, whales, ostich riding, wine tasting, sailing...) marvelllous, i recommend it for everybody, although i would not recommend to live in Cape town due to safety issues.

I truly hope all is great with you, and that i can see you in AUT when i come back in London.

Best regards,

Seb.

PS: your LBS email seems out of order, so i have to use a comment on your blog, sorry.

Even de tijd genomen om op je nieuwe blog te kijken, ziet er erg gelikt uit.
Je opleiding loopt voorspoedig zie ik in alle verhalen , ik had ook niet anders verwacht ;>)

Heb nu vakantie maar ben gewoon thuis, moet nogal wat werken in en om het huis (schilderen en de tuin opknappen) alleen werkt het weer niet echt mee, maar goed we hebben nog 8 dagen.

Die rustig aan en ik blijf je volgen

Hey Kees! Oh, wat erg ben ik toch ook, ik loop zo achter met mijn mail en mijn comments. Ja, alles gaat voorspoedig, het leven is erg goed! Ik zal dit weekend je een uitgebreide update per mail sturen, N

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Happiness

  • 'For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life. This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one.' [Souza]

1001 things to do before I die

  • 143. See the Giant's Causeway in Ireland
  • 142. Go to a cricket match
    Done, well kinda. Saw a 2 20\20 matches: Scotland vs South Africa and England vs Pakistan (June 2009)
  • 141. Dine at El Bulli
  • 140. See and hear Lyle Lovett live
    Did this March 21st 2009. Oh my, oh my, what a treat! In my top 3 of best concerts ever.
  • 139. See an opera in the Metropolitan Opera
  • 138. See an opera at La Scala
  • 137. Visit Dr Johnson's house
  • 136. Buy my own webdomain
    Done.
  • 135. Visit Himeji
    Done. Impressive. Recommended.
  • 134. Read Crime and Punishment
    Along with GS, let's see who finishes it first :-)
  • 133. See Bruce Springsteen live in concert
    Did this 18/06/08, in A'dam. And oh my Lord. Bruce. Rocks. Best. concert. ever.
  • 132. Go to Ireland
  • 131. Go to Greece
  • 130. See the Taj Mahal in real life
  • 129. Visit all the Dutch waddeneilanden
    Got a long way to go on this one, I've only ever been to Ameland.
  • 128. Go to the Fotomuseum in Rotterdam
  • 127. Become a fellow of the RSA
  • 126. Go to the Barbican
    Been wanting to do this for a long time, finally got round to it in Okt 2007. I didn't get lost.
  • 125. Read something by Brett Easton Ellis
  • 124. Read War and Peace
  • 123. Get my motorcycle license
    I've dreamt of doing this ever since I was 10 or 11. One day...
  • 122. Renew my British Library reader's ticket
    Done. I went in, they found my old reader's number, and within 5 minutes I had a new reader's ticket. The BL's one of my favorite places in London, I love the quietness and calmness of it.
  • 121. Become a member of the London Library
  • 120. Drink champagne at the Champagne bar at St Pancras
  • 119. Go to an opera at the Royal Opera House
    Did this March 1st 2009, Rigoletto. And oh man, what an experience. The theatre is beautiful, and the singing so touching, I had tears in my eyes. Highly recommended.
  • 118. Go to Exmouth Market
  • 117. Go to a BBC Proms concert
    Did this in July 2007 for the first time, and it was absolutely magical. Listened to a French Baroque requiem mass which was angelic, and to the Soweto Buskaid String Ensemble who brought the house down.
  • 116. Dance tango in Argentina
  • 115. Take a singing lesson
  • 114. Go to Teheran
  • 113. See a play at the Globe theatre
  • 112. Take a sculpting class
    Taking my cue from Mr W.
  • 111. Ride a Harley Davidson
  • 110. Visit the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam (again)
  • 109. Go to all 50 states in the US
    Working on it. So far: New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Washington, Illinois, D.C., Utah, Louisiana, North Carolina, Illinois
  • 108. Visit Bhutan
  • 107. Take the Creativity and Personal Mastery course
    Did it in SUM 07 term. Loved it, this is the elective that will have the most impact in my life.
  • 106. Find my purpose in life
    On my way. Maybe that IS the purpose
  • 105. Learn how to draw
  • 104. Put together my family's cookbook
  • 103. Write a good short story
  • 102. Become an expert in something
  • 101. Go to Spitalfields market
    I've been, but never really properly. Now that my job is close to there though, I figure I should make more of an effort.
  • 100. Go to Dallas
    Done, Sept 2008. Loved it. Everything IS bigger in TX! Loved the Dallas Museum of Art, the Museum of Modern Art in Ft Worth, tex mex food, the Kimbell museum, the Half Price bookstores, driving around in my convertible, the Sixth Floor museum.
  • 99. Go to the Hermitage museum in St Petersburg
  • 98. Go to the Tower of London
  • 97. Take a trip on the Reunification Express in Vietnam
  • 96. Go on a retreat in a convent
  • 95. Go to the UK Houses of Parliament
  • 94. See the Himalayas
  • 93. Go to El Escorial
  • 92. Interrail through Europe
  • 91. Go to Toledo
  • 90. Go to Salamanca
  • 89. Go to the Fondation Henri Cartier-Bresson in Paris
  • 88. Go to Dulwich Picture Gallery
  • 87. Make my own ice cream
  • 86. Make my own dulce de leche
    Tried this, with mixed results. It turned out to be more.. ehm.. solid than it was supposed to be. But tasted good nonetheless.
  • 85. Ride the Shinkansen train in Japan
    Done. It's awesome!
  • 84. Go to Angkor Wat
  • 83. Travel to Vietnam
  • 82. Learn (more) tai chi
  • 81. Go to Iona
  • 80. Run a 10K race
    Did it July 15th 2007. Am too embarassed to post a time, but I finished and absolutely loved it, so I'll train some more and some another one.
  • 79. Watch the London Marathon in person, not just on TV
    Did this in 2007, wow, it was amazing! Runners had written their names on their race-tops and people in the audience were cheering everyone on by name. It rocked.
  • 78. Go to Hay-on-Wye
    Done, Jan 09. Loved it. Set in beautiful Welsh countryside, it's bookstore after bookstore, what more could I want! I have to go back and explore some more. Highly recommended.
  • 77. Go to the Tate Britain
    Did this in July 2007 for the How We Are: Photographing Britain exhibit and I loved it. What a beautiful museum! I'm quite partial to the Tate Modern building, but the Tate Britain gets a two thumbs up! Great shop, wonderful building, love the Turners.
  • 76. Ride (fly?) on the London Eye
    Did this in 2006 and was surprised to find out that the dome above the British Museum is really a dome... somehow I thought it was a flat roof!
  • 75. Go to Books for Cooks bookstore in London
    Did it and I was amazed. So many cookbooks, so many recipes, so little time...
  • 74. Have tea at the Dorchester
  • 73. Go to Chile
  • 72. Go to the Frick in New York
  • 71. Go to the Guggenheim in Bilbao
  • 70. Go to Graceland
  • 69. Catalogue all the books in my library
  • 68. Go to Sydney
  • 67. Go to Seattle
    Did it in Nov 2006 and it was wet!! Some great chocolate shops though (Dilettante and Fran's were my favourites), the Snoquamie Falls were gorgeous, loved Pike Place Market, and the Elliott Bay Bookstore on Pioneer Square is great (esp the secondhand section).
  • 66. Become financially independent
  • 65. Design my own house
  • 64. Fall madly in love again
    Swept off my feet. Magic.
  • 63. Live in a house on the beach
  • 62. Live in New York
    Did it in autumn 2006 and loved it. What a city!
  • 61. Visit the MoMa in New York
    Did it for the first time in Oct 2006, on Target Free Fridays (between 4 and 8pm). Loved it, but it was too crowded. Was esp impressed with the Andy Warhol paintings and the photography section.
  • 60. Go to Boston
  • 59. Go to Montreal
  • 58. Visit Toronto
  • 57. Visit Sir John Soane's Museum
  • 56. Visit Vancouver
  • 55. Take a photography course and learn how to properly use my SLR
  • 54. Own a Le Creuset pan
  • 53. Visit Berlin
  • 52. Visit Savannah
  • 51. Take the train across Canada
  • 50. Learn how to surf
  • 49. Visit the Hermitage museum in St Petersburg
  • 48. Start my own company
  • 47. Drive across Canada
  • 46. Visit Capetown
  • 45. Learn how to play guitar
  • 44. Learn how to play bandoneon
  • 43. Own an espresso machine
  • 42. See the Northern Lights
  • 41. Drink champagne in Champagne
  • 40. Visit India
    Dec 08, went to Delhi, it was love at first sight. Can't wait to go back to India.
  • 39. Visit Andalusia
  • 38. Go to the North Sea Jazz Festival
    Did this in the summer of 2005 with a dear friend and it rocked. Jamie Cullum and Solomon Burke were my favourites.
  • 37. Be part of the audience on an Oprah show
  • 36. Visit New England in autumn
  • 35. Visit Tibet
  • 34. Learn how to sail
  • 33. Take a writing course
  • 32. Grow herbs from seed
  • 31. Bake the perfect (or pretty good) chocolate cake
  • 30. Publish my travelbook (see 29)
  • 29. Write a travelbook
  • 28. Travel on the Orient Express
  • 27. Eat a Thai meal in Thailand
  • 26. Visit the Guggenheim museum in New York
    Did this in December 2006. Loved the building, although the lack of places to sit was a downside.
  • 25. Visit Pierpont Morgan Library in New York
    Done it, liked it, brought back many happy thoughts of my book historian days, his study and especially library are uber-tacky ;-)
  • 24. Visit Glasgow
  • 23. Visit Venice
  • 22. See the Dutch queen in person
    Did this on April 30th 2005, with my parents, and our queen looked fab.
  • 21. Visit the Keukenhof
    Did this with my friend M and was impressed. So many flowers, so little time to photograph 'em all...
  • 20. Take an arthistory course
  • 19. Drive an Audi TT
  • 18. Drive a Dodge Viper
  • 17. Walk to Rome from my parents' house
  • 16. Take a photography course
  • 15. Take a silkscreen printing course
  • 14. Visit the Louvre
    Did that in April 2006 and loved it!
  • 13. Visit every Rubens painting in public collections
    Working on it...
  • 12. Teach a part-time course
  • 11. Travel from Moscow to Beijing on the Transmongolian Express
  • 10. Visit all London zone 1 tube stations in one day
  • 9. Visit Kyoto
    June 2009. Stayed in a proper renovated machiya, saw geiko and maiko, amazing stuff.
  • 8. Visit Tokyo again
  • 7. Visit the Forbidden City in Beijing
  • 6. Learn to speak Spanish
  • 5. Take a pilates class
    Done it, and liked it!
  • 4. Take a yoga class
    Doing it, and love it :-)
  • 3. Visit the Prado Museum in Madrid
  • 2. Learn how to cook Thai food properly
  • 1. Eat a Michelin star meal
    Done. A lovely, wonderful tasting menu at The Square in London. Definitely got a taste for Michelin stars :-)

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About me

  • I'm Dutch, currently live in London (a city that has stolen my heart) and I drink my tea with lots of milk, no sugar thanks. Qualified Anglophile, book historian and MBA from LBS; currently studying for an MA in Design Studies at Central St Martin's. Bit of a travel-addict (both the armchair and real life variety), geekgirl, art lover, serious book-a-holic and an incurable foodie. I think serendipity is one of the most beautiful words in the English language, have a thing for the Fifties, and a talent for finding bookstores in any place I find myself in. If after all this you want to find out even more, check out natasjagiezen.org.

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